Honeywell 5800MINI vs Honeywell 5811

[SWISH] Hi DIYers, this is Frank at Alarm Grid. We're back in the Alarm Grid lab working with the 5800MINI and the 5811 Slim Door/Window Contacts. So traditionally, the 5811 has been out for several years. At this point, the 5800MINI is now the skinniest sensor and the smallest. In equal depth to the 5811, but where the 5800MINI really is beating the 5811, at this point, is in width. So the 5811 was the skinniest sensor. This was the one that came in all the Lyric kits, LYNX Touch kits. They came with a three pack and 10 packs of the door/window contacts, because it was Honeywell's nicest, slimmest sensor. When the 5800MINI released, this is going to take over. The benefit here is the width. So if you look at the profile here, you might not be able to tell from the shot, but basically you're losing 3/16 of an inch. So the 5800MINI is one inch wide, pretty much right on the money. And then the 5811 is one inch and 3/16 on top of that. So when you talk about installing this on doors, it may not matter. That inch and just under a half may be fine on most doors. But when using these on windows is where you notice it. On a double hung window if you're trying to protect the top end of the window to protect the up and downward motion both panes, then this can be very handy, because oftentimes on a lot of the newer windows out there they're exactly one inch or maybe just over an inch. Where the 3/16 measurement is barely hanging over. And over time it can it can pop the sensor off or it can maybe not fit at all. So the real physical dimension winner here is definitely the 5800MINI. You can see the two magnets here. The 5800MINI magnet is a bit bigger. It's a little bit more rounded out. You can see generally that the aesthetics on the 5800MINI are a little nicer, more rounded. And the magnets on the 5811 are smaller. You can source these individually. And they're called the 5899D. That's a magnet we sell on our website for a small amount of money. And you can get these for venting on windows, if you want to have multiple open spots where the system is happy and the sensor is not tripped. You can also just pop the magnet interior, the actual magnet itself, out of the 5800MINI case and glue that or use some adhesive tape on that which will gain you some width to fit on an area where you maybe can't fit it. If you're upgrading, you can use the existing 5899Ds from your 5811 with the 5800MINIs, if that's the case. But that's pretty much it for the dimensions. You can see the height is just basically the same. It's about 2.2 inches on each of them. And then the depth, they're both still 1/4 of an inch. So they're both very skinny. So they won't be too much of an eyesore on your doors and windows. When you open these sensors, you'll see a few things. One thing I've noticed on the 5800MINI is that the plastic seems to be a little bit softer. The casing on the 5811 is a little bit more heavy duty. So when you go to use your screwdriver, you don't bend the plastic too much. On this one you might. So just be careful when you do that. What I've also noticed is if you're using a smaller screwdriver, so if we pull out one of our little tweaker screwdrivers here, when you go to pop this open, it sometimes when you go to pop it, it might actually just damage it and just slip and basically bend the plastic. Whereas on this, I've noticed that popping it open with a regular screwdriver is fine because the plastic hard enough. So I'm going to put the 5811 down for second. We'll focus on the 5800MINI. So putting the smaller screwdriver driver away, if you get the proper screwdriver that's a heavier duty screwdriver, not quite as skinny as maybe a smaller tweaker is. This one here fits in perfectly. And you can see here, you can just pop it right open. And once you have this open, we can take a look at the sensor here. You have your guide on the inside of the cover with the three different statuses of the sensor. The 5800MINI is the first sensor to have a status LED on board. The 5811 does not, obviously. And there's three different settings. Basically, you have a successful transmission on a green LED that's separate. You might not see that right here, right now, but I can trip that for you, so you can see on the video. You see on the bottom here, you have the green the green light for the transmission. And you have this blue light over here and that's your LED for knowing you have the proper magnet alignment. So when you're first installing these, you can move this up and down or near and far. And you want to get near the reed switch. On the outside of the cover you'll see these five little ridges here. And that's where you know the reed switch is. You want to have the magnet on that side of the device. And you want to have it within that 3/4 inch range so that you know the magnet will, when the door or window is closed, that it is actually showing the proper status of the system. This blue LED also has the ability to change red. And it will do that when this 3 volt CR2032, the same battery used in the 5811, with similar battery life. It should be on average between three to five years, depending on use. That blue LED will turn red if the magnet drops below 2 volts. And that's when you should know to then replace your battery. And the system, the Lyric, or the LYNX panels, or even the Vista panels if you have an RF receiver on those, will be smart enough to know and it will trip a Trouble on the system, a Low Battery Trouble. And you can be notified of that through Total Connect or from your central station. And you can then switch out your battery. These Panasonic's CR2032s are pretty common. You can get them in your local pharmacies or you can also order them from us at alarmgrid.com. So this is the new sensor. We'll then close this up. We'll take a look at the 5811 internals. Again this little heavier duty plastic, but at this point the 5800MINI is basically winning this battle. So we have the tamper cover open, littler simpler inside, no LED, just your tamper switch here, and your battery. Again same battery, same reed switch here. The difference on the side, instead of having the five ridges-- let's pull that down again-- instead of having these small little ridges here, what you're having-- just get out of there-- these five little ridges, you have these two tabs. So that's the differences, you can see. You want to line up your magnet in between two tabs to line up with your reed switch. On this one, it's just these five ridges on the side. But basically, this one has a little bit larger of an antenna, you can see. So this one is supposed to have a 200 foot range. Honeywell says this has a 150 range, the 5811. We found it to be a little bit more in some cases, some less, depending on what structure you're in. But the 5800MINI is supposed to be a 200 foot range, nominal feet in open air. So if you're in a home with multiple walls, that will drop. But if we go back to the 5811, essentially the 5800MINI is just a nicer, newer version of the 5811 Slim Sensor. So if you're looking at the two of them and trying to make a choice, we would probably recommend the 5800MINI at this point. In the future all of the kits that come with the Lyric and the LYNX TOUCH kits will be shipping with the 5800MINI. So this will be the standard contact that we use going forward. We also have some other videos on how to program this sensor to the Lyric and the LYNX Touch panels. And we will be doing the Vista panels as well. So if you have any questions on either the 5811 or the 5800MINI, please email us at support@AlarmGrid.com. And also subscribe to our channel.