Honeywell 5828 and 5828v Install Guide

That note is more for VISTA panels and is just encouraging users to setup the function keys on the wireless keypad to match the function keys on the wired keypads. As the L7000 has no wired keypads with function buttons, you can choose either option.
Step 6 states the option must match the programming on the control panel. What should be set on the L7000? I am using option 1 for step 6 (off/away/stay buttons).
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Sterling. Well it all appears to be working. I do need to program some entry/exit delays and so forth but that is later. It was the fact I was trying to use the original SA5881 receiver for the window sensors and the 6061RF& 5828V transceiver for communication between them only and that didn't work, then when I activated the receiver in the 6160RF and still had the original 5881 active that the signals got all mixed up. I just pulled the plug on the original 5881 and all appears ok. I very much appreciate your help and will be using you folk for monitoring. You have been extremely helpful. Again Thank You Very Much. Richard
This sounds like strange behavior. Are the sensors still working in reverse? I would try a power cycle of the system if they are.
Sounds like you are on the right path. Let us know if you need further assistance.
I think I know what's going on. I disconnected the receiver in the original box and just using the 6160RF for everything. I am going through learning the transmitters to the 6160RF. Will advise
Wow that put it in a tail spin, turned on and to address 00. It now says the door is open when closed. I set the alarm when closed by mistake and closed the door and yes the alarm went off. I was originally using the old receiver in the original alarm which uses 5816 transmitters. these appear to be normally off then turn on when open? Thank you folk
sorry missed the question the receiver is off, using the original panel to receive the fault alarms, just using the 6160RF & 5828V to communicate with each other for status reports arm arm/disarm
Frank, thanks for the response. Actually I do not know what you mean. I can arm/disarm without an issue. I get status update but only after the * is pushed, it is on AC power. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
Did you already set the 6160RF receiver on and map it to address 00?
You should set the 6160RF receiver ON at address 00 instead of using the local House ID mode with the receiver off as you are now.
Sterling. another update, I just found by opening and closing the door several times the 5828V did chime and update however it is only doing it 1 in 50 times. how do you tell if it is the 6160RF not sending a signal or the 5828V not receiving it. Let me have your thoughts if you can please. Thank you Richard
PS no exit delays all "0"
Hello Sterling. 6160RF 2=31, 3=off, 4=10, 5=n/a, 6=off, 7=off 5828V 1=10, 2=1, 3=0, 4=1, 5=2, 6=1, 7=EE then * Hope this helps, I do appreciate you efforts Thank you
Can you provide each value you have set for each of the keypad programming fields? Also, do you know what your system's Exit Delay is set to now (in seconds)?
I placed the 5828V 10 ft. from the 6160RF, nothing but free space in between (AC plugged in) and it still does the same, open a door and main gives 3 dings and states which is open, the 5828V remains ready to arm and I have to press the * on the 5828V to make it respond, it does not ding but does state correctly which is open. Thank you
Sorry I meant to say a safe watch Pro, security manager 20ATDEG20/20ATDED. It was left in the house and it has the 5816 wireless only window/door switches. I do have the code for it. I am using the 6160RF, 5800RP,5828V just to arm disarm etc. remotely. Thanks
If you take the keypad closer to the 6160RF so that the brick wall isn't between the two units, does it work as expected?
follow up to below. I do have a 5800RP to assist range, total range is only about 60ft but through a solid brick wall. I can arm and disarm from the 5828V, but when status changes on the 6160RFit does not change on the 5828V until the * is pressed. Then it shows exactly what the 6160RF is showing, arm, ready to arm, what door or window is open etc. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you
That sounds like you have something off in programming. What Honeywell control panel are you suing?
I have a 5828V and everything seems to work except the chime on door or window opening. Chime is turned on but nothing, Also status will change on the 6160RF but doesn't change on the 5828V until I press the * key. it is ac operated
It's not displaying 'Back' on the LCD is it? Also, if you actually put the system into alarm mode using that sensor, is it saying Back Master Bedroom Door when it annunciates the alarmed zone? If not, I think Julia is correct that you are just hearing the pre-programmed word 'FAULT' that is said before any verbal zone chime.
It doesn't sound like fault. I'm pretty sure it's saying back.
I think it's probably saying "Fault" instead of "Back". Usually people mistake it for the word "Front" and think it's saying "Front" before everything. Listen again, could it be "Fault"?
For some reason the 5828v says the word "back" in front of each descriptor and I'm not sure why. The 5210 says the correct description such as "master bedroom door" but the 5828v says "back master bedroom door". Any thoughts on this?
Is your display going to sleep after a period of inactivity? What alarm system are you using it with?
I have the 5828 set up and chiming works, but when you have the entry after it being armed the unit does not "beep" like the 6160rf. Am I missing something? It's hardwired AC.
Ah yes, unfortunately, the sounds between the panel and wireless keypad aren't exactly synced but I'm glad to hear it's working otherwise.
When you say you get false alarms, do you mean that the 5828V keypad is in alarm mode when the alarm system is not? I would suggest changing the RF House Code in your panel and then setting the wireless keypad to the new House ID in case your wireless keypads are picking up a neighbors system.
Thanks, Sterling. I wasn't patient enough to wait for the beep. There is a slight delay between the panel and the keypad. But it works now as it should.
No joy....double checked programming, did a factory reset, and I still get random false chimes, and even false alarms. Other than a bad unit, are there any other sources of such trouble? Distance from Lynx to 5828v? Too long of a spliced power cable?
It sounds like you have it programmed properly. I assume you aren't arming with the Silent Exit option turned on?
Yes I thought so. I didn't have Option 3 right but changing it didn't make a difference. Both units are now synced to 60 secs , Keypad Option 3 set to 4. other keypad programming >>> Option 2: #2; Option 5: #2 and Option 6: #0 . The Chime works since it beeps in the last 10 secs of the exit delay and it beeps when our patio door is triggered which is correct per panel programming.
Yes, the 5828 should give you the entry/exit delay beeps. Did you program the proper Exit Delay in option 3 of the keypad programming? Are you sure you have the rest of the options programmed as they should be?
My 5828 has an AC adapter connected and works, BUT it is in Chime mode and doesn't give me Entry or Exit chimes like the L5200 panel? What's going on? Is that normal? Any setting to change it? Thanks.
You may have something programmed wrong on the 5828V. You should double check all the programming fields for the 5828V programming as one that is off can cause strange behavior like what you've described.
Any ideas why my 5828v announces FALSE CHIMES? My 5828v is line powered and connected via wifi to a Lynx 7000. I currenly have wifi door (plunger) and garage door sensors, which I have set to chime on the Lynx and the 5828v. When a door opens, both chimes work correctly. However, at random times several times a day, the 5828v will chime by itself when NO DOOR IS OPEN...the Lynx remains silent.
Sounds like you have some programming that's off between the keypad and the panel. One wrong selection in the keypad programming can make it act strangely like this. I would go back through each keypad programming question and verify they are all right.
When I arm my Lynx Touch L5200 using the 5828v keypad, the keypad panel incorrectly shows green- ready chime. The Lynx Touch shows the correct armed stay status. When I use the Lynx Touch to arm itself, the 5828v keypad will then show the correct armed stay status. What could be a reason for this?
Glad I was able to help!
Awesome - thank you very much! I will sleep much better now! :-)
If you push in the bottom two tabs, you can separate the keypad from the back plate. The siren is connected in the top right and you just have to pull out the white clip with the red and black wire.
Understood. However, I do want the chime downstairs. I do not want the chime in my bedroom. My other system allowed me to make the keypad silent while maintaining the sounds on the main unit. It's absurd that this keypad doesn't allow for the same settings.
This system won't force you to have the chime on either. You can disable chime by pressing Settings and toggling the green Chime light off by tapping Chime. You can also enter your master code followed by the 9 key on the wireless keypad.
Ugh. Thank you for the info. Which wire do I cut to disable the speaker? I cannot have the thing chiming. Our other system did not force me to hear the chimes all the time.
Unfortunately, that is not possible. The wireless keypad follows whatever chime mode the LYNX Touch is set to at the time.
Can someone please tell me how to mute the chime on the keypad (which is in my bedroom) but still allow the chime on the main Lynx unit (which is downstairs in the the laundry room)? I want the chime downstairs, but I do not want to hear it in my bedroom when I'm trying to sleep and others are coming/going or opening windows.
Actually, our Self Monitoring plan which is a standalone Total Connect 2.0 service plan works world wide as long as you have the WIFI communicator installed and joined to your network. With that plan (only $10/month), you'd be able to arm/disarm the system from a smart phone app or from totalconnect2.com. The service also allows you to setup SMS and email notifications from the system to any number of recipients.
thanks for the offer, that would be great but unfortunately i'm not residing in the us so i do'nt think i can get the service, thanks again!
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wow, that was a fast response, i'm impressed!!! :D thank you my good sir! i intend to add this to the L5200 system wish me luck!
I just emailed it to you. Let us know if you need anything else.
how can i download this as pdf?
Yes Ben, that is correct. Using a K0991 transformer, and the panel and keypad set to chime, the wireless keypads will sound the audible chime when a zone is faulted.
Answered my own question: If the Lynx is set to Chime and you're using line power, it looks like the 5828 will chime when a zone is triggered, in case anyone else was wondering.
Is it possible to configure the 5828 to chime or make a noise when a zone is triggered but not armed? For example, can it make a noise when a door is opened? If so, does this require line power (not batteries)? Thanks.

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Wireless Bidirectional Fixed-Word Keypads

ADEMCO 5828/5828V

K0020V3 5/10 Rev. A

INSTALLATION AND SETUP GUIDE
GENERAL INFORMATION
The ADEMCO 5828 and 5828V are wireless, bidirectional, fixed-word, keypads that may be used in conjunction with LYNX and VISTA series residential control panels. VISTA systems require use of either a 5883 Transceiver (micro P/N WAK5119-X, where X = 3 or higher), 6150RF Keypad/ Transceiver (PC board P/N SA6150RFAS-T3 or higher), or 6160RF Keypad/Transceiver. The 5828/5828V keypads are not compatible with commercial control panels that have three-digit zone numbers (e.g., VISTA128BP). Both keypads provide: • Four programmable special function keys • Wall-mount plate for easy removal of the keypad and battery replacement • Optional Desktop mount /AC adapter kit, ADEMCO P/N 5828DM) • Battery-powered with 3-AA batteries The 5828V keypad additionally provides: • Memo/Message center • Voice Response – system status, zone information, and alarms with zone information • Stored Message LED indication • Built-in microphone and speaker NOTES: • The 5828/5828V cannot be used as the primary system keypad, and may not be used to program or test any security system. All systems require a hardwired keypad (or Compass Downloader) to do so. Once programmed, the 5828/5828V can be used to initiate all common functions of a fixed English keypad.

Operation (See NOTE below)
1. Battery-Powered Operation: When powered by battery, the keypad activates when any key is pressed. When the [,] key is pressed, the keypad sends a system status request, and displays and/or annunciates the present status transmitted by the system. AC-Powered Operation: When powered by AC, the keypad remains active at all times. Any change in system status will cause the display to automatically turn on (if blank) and display/annunciate the new status.

2.

If AC power is lost, the keypad will revert to battery-powered operation until AC power is restored and a new status request is made ([,] key). NOTE: Whether the unit is powered by battery or AC, the 5828/5828V may take up to 5 seconds to display and/or annunciate the new status after pressing the [,] key.

WALL MOUNTING
Before mounting the 5828 & 5828V permanently, determine a good RF location as follows: • • If interfacing to a LYNX panel, try communicating with the panel from different locations. If interfacing to a VISTA panel, perform a Go/No Go test from the panel. Refer to the Go/No Go test mode in the Installation and Setup Guide for the panel.

Avoid mounting locations on or near large metal objects, since these can decrease the transmission range or block transmissions. • • Secure the mounting plate to the wall, using proper sized hardware through the six mounting holes. Plug the cord from the optional power pack into the keypad’s DC input connector, and route the wires through the wire guides on the back of the keypad. Position the keypad over the mounting plate and slide down, engaging the four retaining clips on the plate with the receptacles on the keypad.

A B C D
5828 Keypad with Front Cover Removed
ARMED

1 4 7

OFF

2 5 8 0

AWAY

3 6 9 #

STAY

READY

MAX

TEST

BYPASS

INSTANT

CODE

CHIME

READY

5828-00-001-V0

•

DESKTOP MOUNTING
For full portability, the keypad may be placed in any convenient, RF-suitable location and operated in its batterypowered mode, or near an AC outlet to be powered by the optional Power Pack/Desktop Mounting Kit, ADEMCO P/N 5828DM.

A B
1 4 7
OFF

BATTERY INSTALLATION OR REPLACEMENT
2 5 8 0
AWAY

3 6 9 #

STAY

MAX

TEST

BYPASS

INSTANT

CODE

CHIME

READY

D

5828V-00-002-V0

C

CAUTION: Remove the AC/DC power connector from the keypad (if applicable), before attempting to install or replace the batteries. 1. Separate the keypad from its mounting plate by sliding the keypad up and away from the mounting plate. 2. Open the battery compartment door to expose the batteries.

5828V Keypad with Front Cover Removed

3.

Install or replace the 3-1.5 Volt AA batteries in the battery compartment. Always replace all three batteries at once to ensure normal operation of the keypad over the anticipated battery lifetime. Make sure that battery positive (+) and negative (–) terminals are properly oriented with the battery spring clip connections. Refer to battery placement graphic below.

3.

Press [3] (Exit Delay) Press 0-9 in 15 second increments. Example: If you press 3, exit delay would be 3 times 15 seconds for a total of 45 seconds. NOTE: The Exit Delay programmed here should match the Exit Delay programmed in the control panel. (0 = default) Press [,] to continue. Press [4] (Voice enable/disable). Press (0) to disable. Press (1) to enable. (1 = default) Press [,] to continue. Press [5] (Wireless Protocol). Press [1] for original LYNX controls Press [2] for LYNXR, LYNXR-EN, or VISTA controls (2 = default) Press [,] to continue. Press [6] (Function Key Select). Press [0] for Panic Key Press [1] for Single-button arming NOTE: The programming here must match the programming of the control panel to simplify end user operation. (1 = default.) Press [,] to continue. Press [7] (Restore Defaults). Press [1] to restore factory settings. Press [,]. Exit programming mode.

Alternately flashes “t3” and value selected.

4. (5828V only)

Alternately flashes “t4” and (0 or 1)

AA BATTERY
5.

AA BATTERY AA BATTERY
batt_case-001-V0

Alternately flashes “t5” and (1 or 2)

6.

Battery Compartment

Alternately flashes “t6” and (0 or 1)

4.

Reattach the keypad to its mounting plate by aligning the four mounting holes in the keypad case back with the four mounting clips on the mounting plate. Lower the keypad onto the clips.
7.

PROGRAMMING
The following two items must be programmed in the keypad by the installer. • • House ID Code (Step 1 in Installer Programming mode)* System Type (Step 2 in Installer Programming mode)

Displays “EE”

Exiting Programming Mode
You can exit programming mode by pressing the [,] key whenever the small 00 and (- -) are alternately displayed.

*The same House ID Code must also be programmed in the control panel. Programming a different House ID will disable communication.

Programming or Changing a User Code (Required if using Quick Arm function on LYNX or VISTA)
Enter user program mode by pressing the [7] and [9] keys at the same time until the display flashes double dashes (- -). Enter the desired 4-digit user code that matches a user code programmed in the control panel. There will be no display of the user code entered. Press the [,] key to place the 4-digit code in memory and exit the user program mode.

Installer Programming
Enter the program mode by pressing the [1] and [3] keys simultaneously for five (5) seconds. The display alternately flashes “00” and two dashes (--). NOTES:

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Entering a value other than one specified in the following steps may cause unpredictable results. This keypad exits programming mode 15 seconds after the last key is pressed. Pressing any key will extend the 15-second active time. If the unit times out before you have pressed the star (,) key to save a programmed value, you will need to re-enter the Programming mode and reprogram the option.
ACTION Press [1] (House ID Code) (10 = default) Enter the two-digit house code (01-31) Press [,] to continue. Press [2] (System Type). Press (1) for VISTA Press (2) for LYNX (2 = default) Press [,] to continue. DISPLAY Alternately flashes “t1” and the 2digit house code. Alternately flashes “t2” and (1 or 2)

SPECIAL FUNCTION KEYS
As shown in the figures on page 1, each keypad contains four Special Function keys (A, B, C, D) that may be programmed to execute the commands shown below. NOTE: The Function Key Select setting in Step 6 of the INSTALLER PROGRAMMING procedure above determines the operation of the Special Function keys A, B, C, and D as follows:

STEP 1.

If you select “0”
Function Key A B C D Message Sent to Control Function [1] + [,] (Alarm zone 95) [,] + [#] (Alarm zone 99) [3] + [#] (Alarm zone 96) (Not used for panic alarms)

2.

NOTE: Do NOT use the 5828V for silent panic operation because the keypad itself is not silent. -2-

If you select “1” (normally used on LYNX controls) Function Key A B C D Function “Off” Arms “AWAY” Arms “STAY” (For future use)

NOTE: If using a LYNX control, and the word “MESSAGE” is announced at the 5828V keypad, it means that there is a message waiting at the control panel, which can only be retrieved using the LYNX keypad. To delete a message: Recording a new message will overwrite the old one. Muting system status announcements has NO affect on the message recording or playback capability. If volume is adjusted (3↑ or 6↓) when a message is played back, and the user still wants system status announcements to be muted, the user must again mute system status announcements (# + 2 + 1 for LYNX or # + 0 + 2 + 1 for VISTA).

MEMO/MESSAGE CENTER
The MESSAGE CENTER table that follows explains what can be done using the message center of the 5828V, and the keys to press to enable each function. NOTE: Allow any status annunciation to complete before starting to record a message.

MESSAGE CENTER (LYNX)
TO: Record a message: Stop recording before end of 20 seconds: Playback a message: Adjust message playback volume: Mute keypad status announcements: Restore keypad status announcements: TO: Record a message: Stop recording before end of 20 seconds: Playback a message: Adjust message playback volume: Mute keypad status announcements: Restore keypad status announcements: PRESS: #+1 1 #+3 # + 2 + 3↑ or 6↓ #+2+1 # + 2 + 3↑ or 6↓ PRESS: #+0+1 1 #+0+3 # + 0 + 2 + 3↑ or 6↓ #+0+2+1 # + 0 + 2 + 3↑ or 6↓

POWER CONNECTIONS
In a typical configuration, the 5828 and 5828V keypads are powered by 3-AA batteries. The 5828 and 5828V keypads can also be powered from an optional Power Pack/Desktop Mounting Kit. See detailed specifications for the Kit on the next page. It is recommended that three AA batteries be installed as a backup power source when using the Power Pack/Desktop Mounting Kit.

MESSAGE CENTER (VISTA)

SUPERVISION
A 5828/5828V keypad low battery condition will be displayed as “BAT” on Zone “00” until the battery drops below a minimum level and the display goes blank. The 5828/5828V does not display three-digit conditions, such as a keypad or receiver supervision failure. It will only display the last two digits of the supervision zone number. Therefore, it is recommended for VISTA-10P/15P/20P and variants that you set program field *199 (ECP Fail Display) as a “1” (two-digit display). This will cause the keypad to display Zone 91 as a supervision failure of any device on the keypad (ECP) bus.

New message indication: When the keypad is activated in battery-powered mode and a new message is waiting, the red message LED will blink until the keypad turns off or the message is played back. When powered by AC, if a new message is waiting, the red message LED will blink continuously until the stored message has been played back.

(shown in Table 1 below) and words supported by the control panel. If you use any other words, the 5828V will not annunciate them. Refer to the control panel’s Installation and Setup Guide for specific instructions on programming zone descriptors. TABLE 1. ZONE DESCRIPTORS
ALARM DOOR GUN MOTION ATTIC EIGHT INSIDE NINE BABY EMERGENCY INSTANT OFFICE BACK EXIT KITCHEN ONE BASEMENT FIRE LAUNDRY OPEN* BATHROOM FIRST LIBRARY PANIC* BEDROOM FIVE LIVING PATIO CHECK FLOOR MAIN POOL DEN FOUR MASTER MOTION DETECTOR FRONT MEDICAL ROOM DINING GARAGE MESSAGE** SECOND * These Descriptors are available with VISTA series control panels ONLY. ** This Descriptor is available with Lynx series control panels ONLY. SEVEN SHED SHOP SIDE SIX SLIDING SMOKE STORAGE SEVEN SYSTEM THIRD THREE TWO UPSTAIRS UTILITY WINDOW YARD ZERO ZONE

NOTE: When programming zone descriptors in the panel, you must select from words supported by both the 5828V

1. If installing a Lynx series system, please note that compound zone descriptors supported by the Lynx such as “living room” are not supported on the 5828V, and should be programmed as two single words, “living” and “room.” Also note that the Lynx Voice Prompt Programming mode uses these compound words when applicable. These words should be reprogrammed as two single words in order to be announced by the 5828V. 2. When using a VISTA-40 or VISTA-50P control panel, you must program zone descriptors in order for the panel to announce the zone status correctly.

-3-

SPECIFICATIONS: Physical: Frequency of Operation: Batteries: Power Pack/ Desktop Mounting Kit (optional): Display: Sounder: 6-1/4” W x 4-3/4” H x 1-3/8” D (159mm x 121mm x 35mm) 345 MHz 3 AA, 1.5 Volt Alkaline, ADEMCO part no. 468 Anticipated battery life is 1.5 years. 110VAC input, 5.0 Volt Regulated DC output, 220mA, ADEMCO P/N 5828DM Fixed-Word Liquid Crystal Speaker

The user shall not make any changes or modifications to the equipment unless authorized by the Installation Instructions or User's Manual. Unauthorized changes or modifications could void the user's authority to operate the equipment. CLASS B DIGITAL DEVICE STATEMENT This equipment has been tested to FCC requirements and has been found acceptable for use. The FCC requires the following statement for your information: This equipment generates and uses radio frequency energy and if not installed and used properly, that is, in strict accordance with the manufacturer's instructions, may cause interference to radio and television reception. It has been type tested and found to comply with the limits for a Class B computing device in accordance with the specifications in Part 15 of FCC Rules, which are designed to provide reasonable protection against such interference in a residential installation. However, there is no guarantee that interference will not occur in a particular installation. If this equipment does cause interference to radio or television reception, which can be determined by turning the equipment off and on, the user is encouraged to try to correct the interference by one or more of the following measures: • If using an indoor antenna, have a quality outdoor antenna installed. • Reorient the receiving antenna until interference is reduced or eliminated. • Move the radio or television receiver away from the receiver/control. • Move the antenna leads away from any wire runs to the receiver/control. • Plug the receiver/control into a different outlet so that it and the radio or television receiver are on different branch circuits. • Consult the dealer or an experienced radio/TV technician for help.

FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION (FCC) STATEMENTS

INDUSTRY CANADA (IC) STATEMENTS

This device complies with RSS210 of Industry Canada. Operation is subject to the following two conditions: (1) This device may not cause harmful interference, and (2) This device must accept any interference received, including interference that may cause undesired operation. This Class B digital apparatus complies with Canadian ICES-003. Cet appareil numérique de la classe B est conforme à la norme NMB-003 du Canada.

FOR WARRANTY INFORMATION AND LIMITATIONS OF THE ENTIRE ALARM SYSTEM, REFER TO THE INSTALLATION AND SETUP GUIDE FOR THE CONTROL PANEL WITH WHICH THIS DEVICE IS USED.

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