Honeywell Home PROA7PLUS: Compatible with Honeywell 5800 Series Sensors

Hi, DIYers. This is Michael from Alarm Grid. And today I'm going to be discussing how Honeywell 5800 Series sensors are compatible with the Honeywell Home PROA7PLUS security system as well as the other Pro Series panels-- the PROA7PLUSC, the PROA7, and the PROA7C. In order to use Honeywell 5800 sensors with the system, you need to have a Honeywell Home PROTAKEOVER module installed inside the panel, which I have in my hand right here. And you're actually going to be setting the dial on the PROTAKEOVER module to 0. Let me see that the arrow is facing towards 0 so we don't need to adjust it. But you will need to have this module installed inside the system. This doesn't come included with the system. You need to buy it separately regardless of which version of the ProSeries you have. So what this does, this is a legacy receiver. It allows you to use one of five legacy frequencies with the system. In the case of Honeywell 5800 sensors, like I said, you want to have the dial set to 0. There are other options on there. But if you're using Honeywell 5800 sensors, you're not worried about those. And you won't be able to use the other legacy frequencies, such as the 2.345 gig or the 319 megahertz of the Qolsys or the Interlogix GE. Don't worry about those. You'll only be using the Honeywell 5800 sensors. So the way that this works is that the system has 250 total zones. And 127 of those zones are for encrypted sensors, those being the PROSIX Series sensors and the SiX Series sensors. And the other 123 zones are the legacy zones. That's what you'll be getting once you install the PROTAKEOVER module. You have to have this installed to use those 123 zones. And when I refer to those 123 zones, really, any zone number can be associated with any sensor, whether it's legacy or an encrypted sensor. It's just the order in which you enroll them. So if I enroll an encrypted sensor first, it will get the lowest zone number, probably zone number 1. And then if I enroll an encrypted sensor after that, that would be assigned zone number 2 and so on and so forth. I just can never exceed 123 legacy zones or 127 encrypted zones. So just keep that in mind. And I'll show you a little bit about that when we're enrolling some sensors with the system because we're going to have this-- we're going to skip the actual installation and process on this. We have that in another video if you want to see how to install the PROTAKEOVER module. But you will need this to use the Honeywell 5800 sensors. And the last thing I do want to just mention real quick-- when I'm talking about Honeywell 5800 sensors with the PROA7PLUS or any ProSeries panel when you're using the PROTAKEOVER module, you won't be able to use life safety sensors, such as the 5806 smoke detector, the 5808W3 smoke and heat detector, the 5800COMBO. You won't be able to use life safety sensors such as those. Also, carbon monoxide sensors, those are considered life safety sensors. So you won't be able to use those with the PROTAKEOVER module. Also, key fob devices-- so the Honeywell 5834-4 key fob, you won't be able to use that with the PROTAKEOVER, so pretty much any other sensors. Actually, one last thing-- you won't be able to use the bidirectional sensors, anyone that uses two-way communication and House ID code. The 5828 keypad for instance, the 5800WAVE siren, those use the House ID code. So you won't be able to set that up because this doesn't have a House ID setting. But other than that, it's pretty much free game. So we're going to cut here. This will be installed inside the system. And then I'll show you how we can enroll a sensor, a 5800 sensor. And I'll show you it working on the system. And I'm also going to show you enrolling a SiX sensor real quick just to show you that the zone numbers do indeed change depending on the order enrollment. So let's get at it. So we have the PROTAKEOVER module installed inside the PROA7PLUS. So I'm going to show you how you would enroll a Honeywell 5800 sensor with the system. We have a Honeywell 5800MINI that we'll be using today to get it enrolled with the system. So let's just get at it. Make sure that you have local programming mode on your system. Or else, you won't be able to do this in person. But we're the main screen of our PROA7PLUS. We're going to click the small hamburger button at the bottom, the three horizontal bars. We're going to scroll down to Tools. And we're going to enter in our Installer Code, which ours is at default of 4112. And then we're going to choose Programming. So we're entering the programming mode. We're going to choose Peripherals. And we're going to click the plus icon in the upper-right corner. You see right now we had nothing on the system. We're at the Add a Peripheral screen. And we're going to fault the sensor and see if it wants to enroll. There we go, first try. So let's just go through this really quickly. I'm not going to spend a lot of time going through each setting. I'm just going to breeze through it. Sensor Type-- 5800 & Takeover. This is using the PROTAKEOVER module. And it is part of the 5800 Series. You will actually see this even if you're using a different legacy frequency if you didn't have the dial set to 0. But we're fine with that serial number. We're also fine with-- we're not going to mess with the partition or anything like that. We will give it a name. We'll just call it Bedroom. And then we'll have it be bedroom door because the Device Type will be Door. We're not going to change that. We're going to keep the Response Type. We're pretty much just going to leave everything alone. And we're fine with everything just for testing purposes. We'll do Save in the upper right. And I do just want to show you faulting and restoring the sensor that it is working with the system. I will go back to the main screen here. Actually, I can just press the security icon in the bottom-right corner, the shield. And I just want to show you, if I open up the door window-- [BEEPING] Bedroom door. --you see we do get the fault on the system showing that it is programmed. Now the last thing I do want to do, I want to enroll a SiX sensor just to show you that they do mix and match the zone numbers. That was the lowest zone number. That was zone number 1. So this one will be assigned zone number 2 just to show you that the encrypted sensors don't-- any zone number can be used with an encrypted sensor or a legacy sensor. That's what I'm showing you here. So we're at the main screen. We're going to go back into Programming-- the three horizontal bars at the bottom. We're going to go to Tools. And we're going to enter in our Installer Code again. 4112 is the default-- 1, 1, 2. And we're going to go to Programming. And we're doing Peripherals and the plus icon in the upper-right corner. And we're going to fault our sensor here and get our SiX sensors to enroll. Let's try doing a tamper, see if that takes. It is giving me the green enrollment signal, the flashing light indicating that it's not enrolled with the system right now. [BEEPING] There we go. SIX-Contact's-- that is the one that we were looking for. And you see it is going to Zone Number 2. The last one was assigned to Zone Number 1 just to show you that any zone number can use with an encrypted sensor or a legacy sensor. It's just a matter of the order in which you enroll them with the system. They're assigned the lowest available zone number regardless of whether it's legacy or encrypted. And we'll just quickly go through this just to show you. We'll call this Kitchen. Not W-- K and Kitchen. And we'll save it. And we'll keep the device type as is. Everything looks good to me. We'll keep the chime type as Standard. We'll save it. And I just want to show you it being faulted just to show you that it is enrolled. We're using a SiX sensor alongside a legacy Honeywell 5800 sensor. And one thing about the SiX sensors is, once you enroll them with the ProSeries panels, they can never be used with the Lyric again. [BEEPING] Kitchen door. See, we do get the kitchen door? And then we can close our door. And there we got our system ready to arm, disarmed state. So there is using 5800 sensors alongside a SiX sensor. And again, once you enroll a SiX sensor with a ProSeries panel, it can never go back to a Lyric. Of course, the PROSIX sensors, those are only for the ProSeries panels. Those were never for the Lyric. But that's showing you that Honeywell 5800 sensors are compatible with the Lyric and just showing you a little bit how zone numbers work on the system. If you have any questions about Honeywell 5800 sensors or about the ProSeries alarm panels or alarm monitoring services, send an email to support@alarmgrid.com. 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