Honeywell 5877GDPK
Wireless Relay Module with Z-Wave Siren
We announced in our blog earlier this year that the Honeywell 5877 has been discontinued, however Alarm Grid has procured some stock. The...
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We announced in our blog earlier this year that the Honeywell 5877 has been discontinued, however Alarm Grid has procured some stock. Therefore, we are still offering the 5877GDPK, but only until stock is exhausted. Buy yours today!.
The Honeywell 5877 is a wireless relay module that allows you to control any relay activated device with the touch of a button from a supported wireless alarm system or a Honeywell 5800 Series wireless security key fob. The 5877 relay module provides the easiest way to add remote garage door control to a Honeywell wireless security system like the LYNX Touch panels or the Lyric panels. It is not supported on VISTA series alarm system including the VISTA-15P, VISTA-20P and VISTA-21iP. Garage door control on a VISTA panel will require a Z-Wave controller like the Tuxedo Touch or VAM along with a compatible Z-Wave relay like the Linear GD00Z-4. Be sure to confirm firmware revision with your alarm company on the Tux or VAM when integrating one of these relays. The GD00Z-4 will not work with Lynx Touch or Lyric panels.
The first thing to do when installing the 5877 is wire it directly to your garage motor (Note: This device does not interface with My Q garage door openers). It uses a simple, local 2-wire connection. Any gauge between 18 to 22AWG will work. First land the two connections in parallel (on top of) the existing pair of wires that run to the manual wall button switch. Then land the common or ground on "COM" terminal on the 5877. Finally land the second connection on "NO" for normally open motors or "NC" for normally closed. If you are not sure, trial by error is fine. You will not damage the motor. It simply will or will not work. After the relay is hardwired to the motor plug in the transformer to a local power outlet. Generally there is a duplex with an open outlet just above the motor.
To view open or closed status of the garage door it requires the Honeywell 5822T garage tilt sensor or a 5816 door sensor. Check out our garage door controller kit aka GDCK that bundles the 5877 relay with the 5822T tilt sensor. The sensor must be programmed to specified garage overhead door zones. These zones are mentioned in the installation manual of each compatible alarm system. For example, zones 127 through 130 are specified as garage door zones. Zone 127 matches to "Garage Door 1" in the automation section. Zone 128 to garage door 2 and so on. On the Lyric controller, you can control up to 4 garage doors. The 5877 pairs directly to a Honeywell alarm system like the Lyric Controller in the Automation section. There is a "garage door setup" icon after you press the down arrow. The best practice is to setup the 5822T tilt sensor in a garage door zone first. Then assign the 5877 to the corresponding "garage door" in the automation section. Lastly include the Z-Wave siren and test.
The 5877GDPK is the combination of the 5877 relay and the Fortrezz SSA-1 Z-Wave siren without the tilt sensor. Hence the "GDPK" for garage door pack. The SSA-1 will provide audio-visual warning when the door is operated by the 5877. Essentially this is a liability issue to prevent any young children from being injured by the overhead door. As most overhead doors have proximity sensors to prevent this type of issue you can decide whether or not to install the siren. Honeywell prefers that you do install it. The siren is included in the garage door section under automation.
Key fobs like the 5834-4 enroll directly with the relay. Then you can use your wireless key fob to remotely disarm your security system and open your garage door with just a press and hold of a button.
Brand: Honeywell
Tim, what zone number is the garage door sensor assigned to and what garage door slot number are you using for the 5877 relay module?
Julia, thank you for the response. I've spent a little time testing, here are my results:
1. Android phone, Total Connect 2.0: Devices, Open Garage Door - failed.
2. Lyric Panel: Automation - Open Garage Door - success
3. Ran Panel Sync on Android phone - 1 & 2 had same results.
4. Deleted Garage Door from panel & re-added. Ran panel sync. - 1 & 2 had
same results.
The garage door, panel, and 5877 all seem to be working fine. But the garage door command doesn't seem to be getting from TC 2.0 to the panel. Do you have any other suggestions?
Thanks again.
Also, my answer below assumes you have done an Automation Sync in TC2 and that didn't resolve anything. If you haven't tried an automation sync since this problem started happening, I would try that first. An automation sync occurs when you do a Panel Sync (In the Locations section of TC2).
Has anything changed about the way the garage door is configured in the Lyric? What zone number is it configured for in the panel? If this were my system, and assuming nothing else had changed, I'd go through the setup steps again for the garage door. Since it was working at one time when you first set it up. If you decide to go that route, and you need help with that, here's an <a href="https://www.alarmgrid.com/faq/how-do-i-program-a-honeywell-5877-to-my-lyric-controller">FAQ</a> that walks you through the process.
Hello - I purchased the Lyric panel and the 5877GDPK unit a few years ago. Initially, I was able to use the 5877GDPK to open my garage door both from the Lyric panel and from Total Connect 2.0. Today, the panel control of the garage door still works, however I can no longer open or close it using the Total Connect app. The "garage door" option is still listed under my Devices section of the app and it still shows the current status of the door, however when I send a command (open/close) it never happens.
Looking for advice on how to fix. Thank you.
Do you have a sensor on the garage door so that the system can tell if the door is opened or closed? You can manually control the door from the Lyric panel if there is no sensor because the panel assumes you can see for yourself if the door is opened or closed. Through TC2, you aren't allowed to control the door unless the system can tell if the door is actually open or closed (and therefore tell you). So, you need to be sure you have a contact on the door, and you need to be sure that it is programmed into a zone 127 - 130 (127 = Garage Door 1, 128 = Garage Door 2, and so on). The 5877's serial number does not count as a garage door status zone. Here's a guide to setup: https://www.alarmgrid.com/documents/honeywell-lyric-controller-garage-door-setup The strobe is "required", I think by UL, for safety reasons. Whether you enroll the strobe or not, there should be a 5 second delay from when you press the button to open or close the door, and when the command takes place. This is to give the strobe (when included) a chance to warn anyone near the door that it is about to open or close.
Hi. Yes. I am initiating control from lyric panel. There is a 5 second delay between when I press the garage button and when the door actually responds. I tried from TC2 but it does not do anything. I assume its time allotted for the strobe/siren which I am not using. I am monitored with you.
Hi,
Just to make sure we understand the issue, can you clarify if you are initiating the command to control the garage door from the Lyric panel or from a remote app (such as Total Connect 2.0 or My Home Controller)? Also, would the delay be the similar or different in either case. Are you monitored with us, because we can check your programming to review this option. We look forward to hearing back from you :)
Is there a way to remove/reduce the 5 second delay when controlling garage door from LCP500 via 5877 module?
Hi I installed the 5877GDPK, the garage door opens and closes with the Lyric™ Controller
LCP500-L panel, but will not work with the TC phone app help…
Nope, the 5877 works based on the panel and Total Connect 2.0's built in logic of the RF receiver control. This means that it won't be able to be seen in HomeKit. Here is a link to an FAQ that has some more information about HomeKit integration: https://www.alarmgrid.com/faq/total-connect-vs-apple-homekit
I just installed the 5877GDPK and don’t see the garage open/close button in Apple Home app. I can go to the TC app and the Lyric panel to open/close the garage but I want to do it from the Apple home app. Also my indicator LED light doesn’t come on to show me status. Everything else seems to work (I can open and close) and it tells me if it’s open on the Lyric. Please did I do something wrong? I reset HomeKit and rebooted Lyric.
Hi Matthew, We apologize for providing bad information 9 months back about the 5877 working with 5800 Series fobs in high security mode. You do need your 5834-4 set on normal mode to use it directly with the 5877 receiver.
Unfortunately, there's no option to configure the strobe only when the garage door opens/closes. Honeywell designed it that way on purpose because legally you need a local audible and visual indication the a door is going to go up or down remotely.
As for the option to setup the SSA-1 to sound then strobe and siren when the panel activates, that should not be possible either. At this time, the Lyric doesn't support any integration to a Z-Wave siren other than the built-in notification when the garage door feature is used. There is a wireless siren (SiXSIREN) option for the Lyric if you are looking for another siren for the system though. Also, if anything changes with how the SSA-1 can be configured, we'll let you know.
hi, I have the 5877GDPK working properly with my Lyric. Is there a way fro the SSA-1 just to flash its lights instead of making the loud sound whenever the garage door is open/close? Also, is there a way for the SSA-1 to sound its siren/lights when the Lyric alarm is triggered or smoke detectors are triggered?
ah excellent! Happy to hear that fixed it.
Ah, that is the normally used setup so it make sense that it's working now. Let us know if you need anything else.
I moved the lead from NC to NO and all is happy now. I figured when I did that, the switch would work and the 5877 would not, but both seem to be happy now. Thank you.
Interesting! Do you have it wired as normally open or closed? Have you tried swapping to the other configuration to see that if that still affects the voltage across the terminals?
Thank you, I will try that this afternoon. I have a Chamberlain lift master (not the MYQ). I took a voltage reading across the terminals at the motor, and the voltage is at 16 volts under normal conditions. As soon as i wire the 5877 in, the voltage drops to zero taking the power off of my push button. I watched closely, and when I activate the garage door using the Lyric panel, I hear the click of the relay, and power is momentarily restored to the pushbutton when the door begins to move. I will investigate further, and let you know.
I never heard back from Douglas on this and have not come across it again. I recommend following my last troubleshooting step which was to wire the 5877 directly to the wall switch and see if anything differently happens.
Was there ever a resolution to this? I have the same issue.
Happy to help out with HomeKit configuration info and first impressions. FYI, in my HomeKit system, I have Lyric thermostats, Chamberlain MyQ garage door openers, and a mixed combination of Leviton Decora Smart and Lutron Caseta switches along with a few iHome outlets. All of these devices registered quickly and easily. My only real complaint is that the Leviton switches have spotty reliability for staying registered. I haven’t figured out the problem, as just a few of the switches are problematic with no obvious common thread of geographic location or circuit assignment.
And thanks for the note about Lyric/HomeKit compatibility finally coming online. I just updated my Lyric panel firmware and registered my HomeKit system. All working fine, although as far as I can tell almost everything (motion sensors, door contact switches) is just a monitoring function, except for Arming/Disarming the alarm. Will look forward to future automation opportunities.
Thank you for providing us with that feedback Joe! Good to know that we confidently recommend that for our other customers...
The Lyric/homekit integration is out! Launched a few weeks ago: https://www.alarmgrid.com/blog/honeywell-lyric-controller-finally-homekit-compatible. Feel free to reach out with any questions.
I'm quite pleased with the MyQ/Homekit integration. It's been rock-solid for me (3+ months in operation) and is now the primary way in which I control my garage door when doing it via iOS app. It does require the MyQ Home Bridge, but I got that for $49 via special offer from Chamberlain and installation was painless. Before getting the MyQ Home Bridge, I used the Chamberlain iOS app, which worked fine, but it was just one more app to deal with. Now it is really fun to just say, "Hey Siri, open the Garage Door."
Waiting semi-patiently for the promised Lyric/Homekit integration. Any word on the hold-up?
Have you found the homekit integration useful and reliable? We have not played with the MyQ/Homekit integration yet. Curious to hear your thoughts on the integration. Also I assume you would need a MyQ gateway of some sort to run this type of setup. Which one did you use?
Hi Frank, I agree that it's an interesting approach. I was also concerned about trashing the wired door controller unit due to my non-professional soldering skills -- and that got me thinking about alternatives. I originally thought about playing the solder-to-the-microswitch game with a spare wireless controller, in which case if I trashed it, it was a disposable item. Then I realized I could just place that spare wireless controller next to my garage entry door, so problem solved with no modifications required to the wired controller. My Lyric panel (and Total Control iOS app) senses the door position just fine using the information from the 5822T relayed to the 5877--I realize this is a subset of the capability that the 5877 brings, but it served my purpose. Until I got the MyQ HomeKit module, I used the Chamberlain iOS app to remotely control the door. Now I do it via the Apple Home app and voice-control through Siri. I can also do it via the Lyric app (since Lyric and MyQ HomeKit are compatible), but seldom bother since I'm always in the Home iOS app anyway.
Hi Joe, very interesting article and approach to this situation. We would not recommend this to any customer based on possibly voiding the warranty on the garage motor and the 5877. However if you found this work around solution to be functional it is good to know that it is possible. Assuming that someone is willing to sacrifice the risks in doing so. Thanks for the detailed info!
Hi Brian. If you're very handy with a soldering iron, you might want to take a look at this article: http://howto.liteknight.com/how-to-use-old-pushbuttons-on-proprietary-garage-door-openers/
Essentially, the author taps into the garage door controller's pushbutton microswitch pins (rather than the controller output) to obtain a clean OPEN/CLOSED signal. I've taken an easier route by simply placing a spare wireless remote controller (the type that clips to your car's sun visor) in a convenient location near my garage entry door.
FYI, I am using the 5822T tilt sensor and 5877 controller to provide the door position information needed to enable control of my garage door from my Lyric panel and TC 2.0 iOS app. I've just not wired the 5877 to directly control the door. I also have the MyQ HomeKit module and it works great with Siri and iOS. "Siri, Open Garage Door."
Hello Joe ! I have the same myQ with 5877. Can you show me how to do this
I cannot get my 5834-4 fob to recognize this relay. Does anyone know why? All other aspects of the product work and I can control it from the panel and from TC app. Does this have something to do with high security mode encryption? And if so can the 5877GDPK be configured to recognize encrypted signals from the fob?
I will let you know shortly what happens if you do.
Hmm very interesting. I have only heard of issues with the MyQ garage door technology from Liftmaster. I guess its possible that Genie has some type of security feature to prevent adding other devices to the wired trigger input as well.
I am curious what happens if you locally wire the 5877 to the switch in parallel instead of the motor.
Correct, the wires from the 5877 are on top of the original wires, parallel. All the connections are tight. If I disconnect one wire from the 5877 the doorbell button works. Once I reconnect the 5877 it will no longer work from the doorbell button. I am connected to the COM and NC terminals. Currently the 5877 is connected and working.
Hmm so you simply landed the 2 wire connection in parallel on top of the existing wall button wires? You did not remove any wiring? When you tightened the connections is it possible that one of our wall button wires became disconnected? I would recommend checking that.
How did you connect the wires on the 5877 side? COM and NO or NC? Is the 5877 currently controlling the garage door?
Yes they are wired directly to the motor. They are Genie IS500/A.
Did you wire the 5877 directly to the control terminals on the motor? If not you will need to do that. What is the model number of your garage motor?
I recently installed a 5877gdpk to one of my garage doors. After installing the kit I found the doorbell button control doesn't work with the 5877gdpk connected. If I disconnect the 5877gdpk it works. I have both wired in parallel. Should a diode need to be installed? How can I have both the 5877gdpk and the doorbell button work.
Thank you.
You would be able to use it with a 5800 Series key fob for control of a garage door from a key fob button press but the actual garage door functionality offered on a LYNX Touch or Lyric panel using this device is not available on the 2Gig systems.
Will this relay work with the 2GIG GC3?
OK, will do. This project is a couple of months in the future. Doing preliminary research now.
Yes, I do believe we had one of our more industrious users figure out how to "hack it" and make it work but it's not something we'd recommend ourselves. If you do get it working, we'd be interested to hear what you did though.
Hi Sterling. I did some more research on this. Apparently, the issue is with the wired MyQ door controller putting signals on the wire (not sure of protocol) to communicate with the main motor/drive unit. That's how it is able to program the unit, display status conditions, etc. from the MyQ door controller/display. So it's a more complex signal from what would come from a simple doorbell-style switch. Operation of a relay on the wired circuit confuses/reboots the door controller. I've found workarounds that involve physical hacking of the door controller or wireless controller pushbuttons to tap into their switches upstream -- thereby not affecting the line signals. I may try doing this, but I think it's not something you want to advocate as a recommended practice for customers. So, thanks for including the warning in the 5877 description.
There is something special about the Chamberlain MyQ doors that prevent them from working with the 5877 RF relay module. We're not sure exactly what about the MyQ door controller prevents the 5877 from functioning but Honeywell has the note listed in the installation guide for the 5877.
Could you please elaborate on this point in the item description: "Note: This device does not interface with My Q garage door openers". I'm asking because I'm considering the purchase of a Chamberlain MyQ opener, but also wish to operate it via Lynx/Lyric using a 5877.
For the garage door, we have this kit, that includes the 5877 and the 5822T (https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/honeywell-gdck )
And I think Sterling meant 5816OD.
I would use the 5826OD (https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/honeywell-5816od ) for your gate.
What type of sensor would you recommend for a gate, it opens sideways. (so I can tell if its open or closed)
Relay would be enclosed within the motor cover.
Yes, the 5877 should work to control your door from the Lyric panel. You would also need a sensor on the overhead door as well so that the panel can tell if the door is open or closed. We recommend the 5822T (https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/honeywell-5822t ).
I would think the 5877 would work on the gate as well as it's a simple RF relay. You would have to have an outlet near the gate for power though and it's not designed for outdoors.
Hello! I have a Crafstman Assurelink Model 139.55918 which I would like to open with this relay, would it work? I also have a rolling gate which open via its own remote control can I use it here as well? I have a Lyric controller by the way.
Well the GDCK allows you to control and view status of the garage door from the panel and TC. If you have TC automation you can setup a smart scene to open or close the garage as well. Thanks for the feedback! We try our best to extrapolate everything from all the tech integration madness...
Hi Frank,
Thank you for the quick reply. Am i getting this right? the sixfob button can be program to open the garage door? If so will this be a TC2 programable option, or directly from the controller under the buttons programming?
Thanks again.
BTW, you guys are a great source of specific info in an arena of very vague affirmations by third party resellers.
Yes it can. I recommend the GDCK which includes the 5822T tilt sensor: https://www.alarmgrid.com/products/honeywell-gdck. We just added a link to this kit in this product description so it is more accessible to future customers looking to integrate control and status of their garage door with the Lyric controller!
Hello, can this relay be operated by the lyric controller through the remote?. I have a detached garage, in which i have to open the garage, park, walk to the house and disarm with keyfob before the alarm goes off.
Thanks
That is a bit long but there is a slight delay. Not really anyway to remedy that besides physically moving the relay away from any obstructions.
Hi is it normal to have a 7 sec delay before the relay activities when on the l5100 2gen
Sorry we must have missed this! Yes its a momentary activation of the relay. Once the motor senses the voltage it should toggle to the opposite setting. For example, if it is closed once the relay sends the momentary voltage it will fully open the door. We just updated our product description so feel free to read through this page again for some more details.
I plan to connect the COM and NC from the 5877 to my gate opener which has the COM and + connections for the close/open using a push button. Does the 5877 activates the relay terminals momentarily (acting like a push button) or certain period of time?
Reporter failure means the panel has tried to communicate via the dialer, and failed. If you don't have a phone line hooked up, you should go into Program and then Reporter then Primary CS Info and make the phone type "None". This will tell the panel there is no dialer, and keep it from attempting to communicate that way.
Have you installed a contact on the garage door? You will need to install a 5822T or 5816 in zones 45 through 48. This is the only way to view status of the garage overhead door. The relay is dumb and simply toggles the motor. There is no way for it to know the status of the garage door.
Please review this FAQ: https://www.alarmgrid.com/faq/how-do-i-program-a-honeywell-5877-wireless-relay-to-my-l5100-lynx-touch-alarm-panel.
Hi I've had 2 installers come and try to install the relay and failed.I have a 5200 panel. I can operate the garage doorfrom the panel but it doesn't register under events on whether the garage door is open or closed. Also we can't operate it through TC. The panel gives an error stating reporter failure, which the techs can't figure out. Please help
The relay is not sold on its own as you need to have a siren that would sound when remotely controlling the garage door. Technically all you need is a 5877 for each door as you can have both doors activate one siren.
Just the 5877 relay? Or the entire 5877GDPK kit?
Each overhead door will needs its own 5877 relay module.
Hi, I have a Lynx 5200 with the Z-Wave module. I have 2 garage doors that I'm trying to get set up with the panel with monitoring only, not secured under arming. I know I'll need 2 of the 5822T sensors. Do I need only one 5877GDPK kit? Or will I need 2?
Unfortunately, per the programming guide, "the 5877GDPK is not compatible with:
- Chamberlin/Lift Master MyQ technology (Including but not limited to; Models 8550, 8360 and 8500).
- One piece or swinging garage doors."
I do believe the myQ garage doors provide you with free WIFI access to open/close the door so you would just have to run that control separately, outside of the TC 2.0 app, if you have one of those door controllers.
Will this work with a myQ garage door opener? If not how will I be able to open/close my garage door with TC 2.0?